Interview: Phil Anselmo Talks Songs of Darkness and Despair, Superjoint, Horror, and Staying True

When horror icon Bill Moseley (Chop Top in Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2, Otis in House of 1000 Corpses and The Devil’s Rejects) teamed up with extreme metal legend Philip H. Anselmo (Pantera, Down, Superjoint, etc.), the result was a twisted, unforgettable EP: Songs of Darkness and Despair, released via Anselmo’s Housecore Records.

We had the chance to sit down—via phone—with Phil Anselmo himself to talk about that project, Superjoint, horror films, music education, social media, A Serbian Film, and so much more.

 

Getting Into Music, Funk, and Early Influences

CC: How did you first get into music? Were you ever into pop, funk, or soul?
Phil: Absolutely—all of the above. I was born and raised in a household full of music. My parents were really young, and in the late ’60s, living in the French Quarter, the musical influences were thick.
CC: Do you remember any early funk artists you liked? Like The Gap Band or Rick James?
Phil: Oh, sure. “Super Freak”? You gotta love it—it’s a killer riff. But growing up in New Orleans, we had Dr. John, The Meters… real funk with that local flavor. I’ve seen The Meters jam a few times—they always throw down.


Music Education and Singing in School

CC: Did you sing in church at all?
Phil: Nah, I wasn’t raised in the church. But my aunt was into theater and musicals—The Sound of Music, Wizard of Oz, Judy Garland… all that. I was raised in a house that loved the arts.
Later, I sang baritone in the school choir in 8th and 9th grade. My teacher took a specific interest in me—partly because I was a cut-up, but also because he thought I was the strongest baritone.


The New Material: Songs of Darkness and Despair and Superjoint

CC: You’ve got a recent Superjoint album and this EP with Bill Moseley. Were they written close together?
Phil: In reality, the Superjoint record is about two years old, and the EP with Bill is over a year old. But yeah, those are the two releases out there, so let’s dissect them.
CC: Is there still a fire burning inside you to create?
Phil: I don’t think the fire ever went out. Whether I’m writing for myself or the public, I’m always creating music. It’s constant.
CC: Any favorite tracks off the new Superjoint?
Phil: Not really. It is what it is. With Superjoint, there’s always a mix—hardcore, some heavy metal, and that essential New Orleans groove. Having Steve Taylor in the band has added a refreshing element too. He’s low-key but super creative.


On “Widder Woman” and California Culture

CC: What can you tell me about “Widder Woman”?
Phil: That’s Bill Moseley’s brainchild. He came up with that absurd lyric idea, and I built a ridiculous soundscape around it. We need more absurdity—in a good way.
CC: Are you familiar with E Clampus Vitus?
Phil: No, what’s that?
CC: It’s a fraternal California preservation group that dates back to the Gold Rush. The widows of miners are referred to as “Widders.”
Phil: That makes sense now—Bill’s a California guy. I’m sure he drew from personal experience. Trust me, I think he writes from what he knows.


On Language, Dialects, and English Comedy

Phil: I like messing with language. Creating little words, playing with dialects. I love the English dialect—words like “quieten” that you don’t hear here in the U.S. And I’m a fan of British comedy. Everything from Benny Hill to The Comic Strip Presents.


Horror, Sci-Fi, and A Serbian Film

CC: You’re a big horror guy. Are you into Hammer Films or sci-fi like Doctor Who?
Phil: You can say “Hammer Films” in 20 different languages, and I’d respond, “Correct, sir.” I’m not a huge Doctor Who guy, but I love original Star Trek. And I’m fascinated by how horror and sci-fi blend—films like The Thing, which is straight-up cosmic horror. That’s pure H.P. Lovecraft influence.
CC: Have you seen A Serbian Film?
Phil: I’ve avoided it. I know what it’s about, and honestly, I’m not into rape-revenge films. Movies like I Spit on Your Grave have cinematic value, but they don’t sit well with me. Give me haunted houses and vampires over that any day.


Social Media and Personal Opinions

CC: What do you get out of social media?
Phil: BoxingRec.com for fight results, Rotoworld for football, and YouTube for boxing and random funny stuff. I don’t visit music sites unless someone sends me a link. Same with horror—I’ve got enough friends in the biz. If something important drops, I’ll hear about it.
CC: Do you mind when artists speak on politics?
Phil: It’s their right. No one should be thought-policed. I don’t like when people try to sway others just because they have a following—but I’m all about individuality. Don’t try to convert me. Stand on your own ground.


Pantera, Recovery, and Living With Pain

CC: Is there any unreleased Pantera material left?
Phil: I found one track that never had vocals on it. I have no idea why we didn’t use it—probably because it didn’t do much. Pantera didn’t leave much unreleased. We used almost everything we came up with.
CC: You recently helped raise funds for Mike Williams’ liver transplant. How’s your liver holding up?
Phil: I haven’t had a drink since February 14, 2016. So that’s a plus.
CC: I read you had back surgery. How are you feeling?
Phil: It was a complex, non-invasive surgery. They built a titanium cage around my lower three discs. Recovery was tough. Four months after surgery, I started getting sciatic pain—burning down my leg. That’s something I’ll deal with forever. Stretching helps, but it’s a long road.


Football, Loyalty, and the Saints

CC: Would you stay loyal to the Saints if they moved to Vegas?
Phil: Damn, I don’t know. Would they even be the New Orleans Saints anymore? That’d be tough. It’d feel weird—like the L.A. Chargers. Just doesn’t feel right.


Final Thoughts

CC: Do you have any final thoughts for our readers?
Phil: This was one of the most pleasurable, different, and wonderful interviews I’ve done in a long time. Big props to you, sir, and a big thumbs-up to all your readers and followers. Thank you for having me.

Listen to the full interview below.


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